Tue Feb 25 20:08:49 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Basically, what I tried to do is alter the code enough so when a person has their default font size set to 12pt they look presentable.

Tue Feb 25 20:09:22 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Hey Journey and you know Robin said that no one who be up this late!

Tue Feb 25 20:09:37 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} http://www.cheapaffordablegifts.com/a3gift/assets/product_images/lycos- css.html

Tue Feb 25 20:09:54 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} http://www.cheapaffordablegifts.com/a3gift/assets/product_images/hotbot -css.html

Tue Feb 25 20:10:06 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} http://www.cheapaffordablegifts.com/a3gift/assets/product_images/altavi sta-css.html

Tue Feb 25 20:12:37 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} You can put the style tags on your web page if your host doesn't allow you to upload css files

Tue Feb 25 20:12:58 2003 frisco {public msg} ?

Tue Feb 25 20:13:32 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} This makes more code for the spiders to crawl through but if you don't have a bunch of tables it usually is ok

Tue Feb 25 20:14:44 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} For css you have to put your code in between lt; style gt; tags

Tue Feb 25 20:15:31 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} You know I am using an HTML chat interface and so it's hard to write tags

Tue Feb 25 20:16:03 2003 frisco {public msg} If you leave off the trailing >, you can usually do fine with tags

Tue Feb 25 20:16:55 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} If you check out the source code on those links for the templates of Robin's I altered you will see the style tag area in the head

Tue Feb 25 20:20:04 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Basically what I do is reduce all the head tags (<H>) to normal size font and chuck all the tables and use <div> tags too

Tue Feb 25 20:27:50 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Any one have any questions or pages you want me to help you transition over to css?

Tue Feb 25 20:30:03 2003 frisco {public msg} Why did you choose not to have an external CSS?

Tue Feb 25 20:30:42 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} The server that all my sites are on at work doesn't allow them

Tue Feb 25 20:30:52 2003 frisco {public msg} really!? Why?

Tue Feb 25 20:31:45 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Because we have 10,000 sites that are template sites and they are afraid the members will mess up their sites totally

Tue Feb 25 20:33:50 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Actually I usually name all the classes, divisions etc as my keyword phrases so it works out to my advantage

Tue Feb 25 20:39:37 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Burgwald..I like your site

Tue Feb 25 20:40:22 2003 frisco {public msg} would you care to share?

Tue Feb 25 20:42:10 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} That depends...

Tue Feb 25 20:42:47 2003 frisco {public msg} I was asking about burgwald's URL - if he cares to share with us.

Tue Feb 25 20:44:05 2003 frisco {public msg} if not, that's ok, but can we move on with strategies?

Tue Feb 25 20:45:06 2003 burgwald {public msg} eincomeinfo.com

Tue Feb 25 20:45:22 2003 frisco {public msg} thanks, burgwald

Tue Feb 25 20:45:49 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Have you thought of putting the scripts in an external file

Tue Feb 25 20:46:25 2003 burgwald {public msg} another is etakecreditcards.com but I can't make changes to this one

Tue Feb 25 20:47:06 2003 burgwald {public msg} I really don't know much html

Tue Feb 25 20:48:19 2003 burgwald {public msg} I was a systems analyst/programmer for 10 years but that was 30 years ago

Tue Feb 25 20:48:51 2003 burgwald {public msg} forgive my fingers

Tue Feb 25 20:50:06 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} When you have a lot of scripts for the spiders to crawl through sometimes that is a hindrance and leaves less time for them to get to the visible text

Tue Feb 25 20:55:16 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} You could also add title attributes to the anchor tags <a> to increase your keyword density

Tue Feb 25 20:56:20 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} I think there must be a character limit in this little text box

Tue Feb 25 20:59:01 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} frisco what kind of site or sites do you have?

Tue Feb 25 20:59:30 2003 frisco {public msg} I have a lot of affiliate sites, sites of my own, and I design for clients

Tue Feb 25 21:00:48 2003 frisco {public msg} example affiliate site: road-trip-planning.com

Tue Feb 25 21:01:09 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} I am developing about 20 minisites right now at work using all css and it is a challenge to an old table guy

Tue Feb 25 21:01:53 2003 frisco {public msg} was very glad to get beyond tables

Tue Feb 25 21:02:39 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Oh, that is a very nice site! your code is clean!

Tue Feb 25 21:03:16 2003 frisco {public msg} thanks

Tue Feb 25 21:03:34 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Really, that is beautiful!

Tue Feb 25 21:03:46 2003 frisco {public msg} most recent site for a client: www.offrampleathers.com

Tue Feb 25 21:05:40 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} You know what I would do. Why don't you name your ids and classes with keywords?

Tue Feb 25 21:06:14 2003 frisco {public msg} all my CSS is external, but I suppose I could still use primary KWs

Tue Feb 25 21:07:41 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Like the division id equals frame could be off-ramp-leathers

Tue Feb 25 21:08:34 2003 frisco {public msg} Good strategy! I'll adopt it. Thanks for the tip.

Tue Feb 25 21:08:47 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} and class content could be motorcycle-leathers

Tue Feb 25 21:09:23 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} It really worked for me on a lord of the rings page I made

Tue Feb 25 21:09:40 2003 frisco {public msg} what is your email?

Tue Feb 25 21:10:08 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} shortgreekguy

Tue Feb 25 21:10:50 2003 frisco {public msg} thanks

Tue Feb 25 21:11:10 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} and yours?

Tue Feb 25 21:11:20 2003 burgwald {public msg} this has been a very good session for me

Tue Feb 25 21:11:20 2003 frisco {public msg} info

Tue Feb 25 21:12:12 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} let's exchange strategies.

Tue Feb 25 21:12:40 2003 frisco {public msg} ok

Tue Feb 25 21:12:45 2003 burgwald {public msg} I have been up since 4am EST and have to get up at 5 am so I am go to save this chat and looking to here from

Tue Feb 25 21:12:54 2003 burgwald {public msg} you again

Tue Feb 25 21:13:27 2003 frisco {public msg} ok Carol - sorry I thought you were a "he"

Tue Feb 25 21:14:10 2003 burgwald {public msg} I am

Tue Feb 25 21:14:20 2003 burgwald {public msg} bye guys

Tue Feb 25 21:14:24 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} oh oh ...me and my potty humor

Tue Feb 25 21:14:24 2003 frisco {public msg} oh dear!

Tue Feb 25 21:15:37 2003 frisco {public msg} the source for eincomeinfo says Carol Burgwald ...

Tue Feb 25 21:15:56 2003 frisco {public msg} and I'm easily confused

Tue Feb 25 21:16:11 2003 frisco {public msg} sorry.

Tue Feb 25 21:17:05 2003 journey {public msg} Tried to keep up, was checking out smcorp.com and emerchant site. You are funny, Greg and thanks and 'nite.

Tue Feb 25 21:17:31 2003 frisco {public msg} yeah - thanks Greg.

Tue Feb 25 21:17:58 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Oh no don't tell anyone where I work it's embarrassing and I know I am going to go to hell for it

Tue Feb 25 21:19:04 2003 frisco {public msg} bye and thanks again

Tue Feb 25 21:19:08 2003 frisco {leaves}

Tue Feb 25 21:19:45 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} see you. It's pizza and beer time since I have two hands free now!

Tue Feb 25 21:26:01 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Although I should have been able to type with my toes and eat with my hands.

Tue Feb 25 21:27:08 2003 standupcomedian {public msg} Night...feel free to email me anytime guys...